The 10 Most Overrated Fighters in MMA

[DoomsDay]

Originally Posted by KoalaBearV.4

Umm, i need to pay more attention? How much thought did you put into that post? It stinks of ignorance. Please go and apply some deodorant.

Kimbo was overrated because people thought he was some stone fisted hard man - Seth exposed his overrated **** big time. Being beaten didn't make him overrated - the internet n00bs did.

Who compared the Sylvia potential slam to Rampage v Arona? Did i imply the slam was going to finish the fight?

Duffee was winning that fight - he got caught with a heil mary.

Carwin is a big slow wrestler with not so great striking (albeit better than Brock's) and power... Big guys with KO power are dime a dozen. Hell - myself and Divac probably fit that mold. People wanted to believe in him - enough talk made him sound like the best fighter in the world - people like yourself bought it - not my fault you can't think for yourself.

Now - would you like to say anything else stupid while i have the time to slap you back into the dunce' corner?

Kimbo pretty much is a stone fisted hard man. His MMA experience is terrible but you cant say a fighter is overrated until its exposed. Kinda like with Duffee. Did you notice noone said he was overrated until a noname fighter knocked him out ? People thought he was well on his way to being the next big thing. I can say Lesnar is overrated all I want, but if he keeps winning until he retires, then where is my proof that he's overrated? He has to lose to prove my point. Surely its not that hard for you to understand.

And you said Mir was hanging on for dear life to keep from getting slammed and pummeled. Mir was not hanging on for dear life, he had the arm bar and broke Tims arm because Tim did not tap, its as simple as that. Im sorry you looked into it for more than it was.

And yes, Duffee was winning that fight, but that was nowhere close to a "hail" Not "heil" Mary........that was a straight jab. lol, you seriously thought that was a "hail" Mary ????????????? boy, you just cant stand to admit someone you like, loses fair and square to a punch that really didnt have "that much" power behind it.

And Carwin is a big slow wreslter ? lol, did you see how fast he exploded on your boy ?? Lesnar is just lucky Carwin gassed. And his striking is "not so great" ?? I guess he was just lucky to have KO/TKO'd the 4 fighters previous to Lesnar, and almost KO'd Lesnar on top of it.

And I never said Carwin was the best fighter in the world. The funny thing here is, you happen to think Lesnar is the best HW in the world, but Im sure as soon as he loses, you'll discredit him and praise whoever beats him, but I'll give you a hint, it'll be Jr. Dos Santos. And big guys with KO power are a dime a dozen ? WTF are you talking about ? There have been numerous HWs in the UFC with KO power.

Man, your lack of actual MMA knowledge is too obvious.

[KoalaBearV.4]

I have to ask the question again... do you watch fights or just record scout?

Mir's effort at an armbar was far from perfect - the pressure Tim put on it himself by lifting Mir was as much a factor to the break as anything Mir was doing. If the arm didn't break - Mir would have been dropped on his head (which he was trying to make sure happened, probably to seek the DQ) and eaten shots immediately after. Have a look at the technique for a well placed armbar and then try to tell me Mir had anything close to how an armbar should look.

Furthermore - look at how Aoki breaks bones - that is breaking and tearing bones out of socket with intent, Mir wasn't close to that.

For years people said Chuck was overrated - it wasn't until he was finished by current killers in that division that the haters opinion gained any weight.

And - it is not my fault that you live in a country that has butchered the English language. No hate towards America, but it is the truth. Just the same as you folk drop Z (zed - not zee) in where S' should be and take U out of words that have been spelt with it for a looong time before America was even founded.

(This is where you throw in a kangaroo pun joke)

Again - you need to back your **** up. You are full of it so it shouldn't be hard.

As for Duffee... did i say i was a fan? Did i say i liked him? I'd like to see him grow as a fighter before i judge him too highly in any aspect. He isn't like say, Jones who has shown there is a reason to get excited about his future - he has had two fights. One in which he caught a guy in less time than it takes to even know how that fight could have played out - and another where he should have won - but instead left an opening for the other guy to land a lucky finish.

Lesnar is lucky Carwin gassed? No - Lesnar was lucky that Carwin bought into his hype as much as the ill informed such as yourself. Carwin didn't prepare properly and lost to a guy that expected hell fire. And as much as you discredit Brock's victory - it was presence of mind and preparation that got him through it.

Explosive? Yes - fast? Explosiveness and speed should not be confused as the same thing. It's pretty easy to snap fast punches and still move slow. Your lack of comprehension explains how you'd miss such a thing.

I've been a fan of Lesnar's for a long time. I'll never discredit him if he loses, the same way as i have never discredited Shogun, Rashad and hell, even Rampage as disappointing as he's been lately - i'm still a fan.

Back in your corner dunce.

[DoomsDay]

Originally Posted by KoalaBearV.4

I have to ask the question again... do you watch fights or just record scout?

Mir's effort at an armbar was far from perfect - the pressure Tim put on it himself by lifting Mir was as much a factor to the break as anything Mir was doing. If the arm didn't break - Mir would have been dropped on his head (which he was trying to make sure happened, probably to seek the DQ) and eaten shots immediately after. Have a look at the technique for a well placed armbar and then try to tell me Mir had anything close to how an armbar should look.

Furthermore - look at how Aoki breaks bones - that is breaking and tearing bones out of socket with intent, Mir wasn't close to that.

For years people said Chuck was overrated - it wasn't until he was finished by current killers in that division that the haters opinion gained any weight.

And - it is not my fault that you live in a country that has butchered the English language. No hate towards America, but it is the truth. Just the same as you folk drop Z (zed - not zee) in where S' should be and take U out of words that have been spelt with it for a looong time before America was even founded.

(This is where you throw in a kangaroo pun joke)

Again - you need to back your **** up. You are full of it so it shouldn't be hard.

As for Duffee... did i say i was a fan? Did i say i liked him? I'd like to see him grow as a fighter before i judge him too highly in any aspect. He isn't like say, Jones who has shown there is a reason to get excited about his future - he has had two fights. One in which he caught a guy in less time than it takes to even know how that fight could have played out - and another where he should have won - but instead left an opening for the other guy to land a lucky finish.

Lesnar is lucky Carwin gassed? No - Lesnar was lucky that Carwin bought into his hype as much as the ill informed such as yourself. Carwin didn't prepare properly and lost to a guy that expected hell fire. And as much as you discredit Brock's victory - it was presence of mind and preparation that got him through it.

Explosive? Yes - fast? Explosiveness and speed should not be confused as the same thing. It's pretty easy to snap fast punches and still move slow. Your lack of comprehension explains how you'd miss such a thing.

I've been a fan of Lesnar's for a long time. I'll never discredit him if he loses, the same way as i have never discredited Shogun, Rashad and hell, even Rampage as disappointing as he's been lately - i'm still a fan.

Back in your corner dunce.

Theres no point in arguing whether or not Mir had the armbar "in perfect form" because the result is, he broke Tims arm and won the fight. Period. Sometimes fighters dont win gracefully, but a win is a win.

And for years anyone who said Chuck was overrated, were simply upset because they didnt like him for whatever reason. When Chuck has wins over Randy Couture, Tito Ortiz, Vitor Belfort, Wanderlei Silva, Kevin Randleman, Jeremy Horn, and Alistair Overeem..............hes not overrated, I dont care how you view him. If Chuck was overrated, he wouldnt have beat half those guys. Now, yes Chuck is losing lately because Chucks time has come and gone, he's done, his mind wants to fight, but his chin/body just isnt there, so what Im getting at is, you're wrong.............What people said then, and whats happening now has nothing to do with being overrated. Theres a big difference between being overrated and washed up. I wouldnt expect you to understand the difference though....


And presence of mind and preparation that got Brock through his win over Carwin ?? ...... so you're telling me that peparing for a fight is running backwards with your arms covering up trying to weather the storm of punches, is what that was ? Brock didnt know what to do, so the result was, him back peddling and covering up like a coward because he's afraid to get hit. And yes, if Carwin hadnt gassed in that 1st round, he would have gotten the KO/TKO in the 2nd, and to prove that, wait until Brock fights another striker with better cardio.

Now dont get me wrong, Ive already congratulated Brock on his win, and I took nothing away from him, he did his job and Carwin did not. Brock won the fight, so at the end of the day thats all that matters, but lets not get carried away on opinions here. Brock looked like it was his first time in a fight when Carwin ran him across the ring unloading punches and Brocks only defense was to cover up..........literally the majority of the round. Are you telling me that Brocks performance was admired ?

I'll be dunce, and you be douche.........Sounds good to me.

[KoalaBearV.4]

Nice retort on the armbar topic - you obviously know what you're talking about.

Brock knew he had to whether an early storm... sometimes fighters win and it isn't graceful - in your words.

I'm not saying that fight was admirable at all - in perfect honesty both guys are way off where they probably should be as far as all round skill. Carwin doesn't have a gas tank and if he doesn't get the finish early - he'll go to water, there were glimpses of this before the Brock fight when Gonzaga tagged him. To Carwin's credit he hung and got the strike needed in that fight - but he looked very unstable when he got hit and noticably went into a desperation state and hung on.

Brock needs to learn how to react to getting hit instead of waiting it out. I wouldn't ever debate that as it seems to be fact at this point.

At least you acknowledge you're a dunce. Realisation is the first step to a solution. However, douche is a stupid insult - an uneducated insult that the masses use. I don't know why - maybe someone said it once without realising its meaning and the sheep picked it up. Be conventional and call me something a little more hard hitting if you have the mental capacity to do so.

[DoomsDay]

Originally Posted by KoalaBearV.4

Nice retort on the armbar topic - you obviously know what you're talking about.

Brock knew he had to whether an early storm... sometimes fighters win and it isn't graceful - in your words.

I'm not saying that fight was admirable at all - in perfect honesty both guys are way off where they probably should be as far as all round skill. Carwin doesn't have a gas tank and if he doesn't get the finish early - he'll go to water, there were glimpses of this before the Brock fight when Gonzaga tagged him. To Carwin's credit he hung and got the strike needed in that fight - but he looked very unstable when he got hit and noticably went into a desperation state and hung on.

Brock needs to learn how to react to getting hit instead of waiting it out. I wouldn't ever debate that as it seems to be fact at this point.

At least you acknowledge you're a dunce. Realisation is the first step to a solution. However, douche is a stupid insult - an uneducated insult that the masses use. I don't know why - maybe someone said it once without realising its meaning and the sheep picked it up. Be conventional and call me something a little more hard hitting if you have the mental capacity to do so.

So you're telling me that a "dunce" is an educated insult ?
Maybe where you're from it is, but where Im from, that was an educated insult.............in the 30s, 40s and 50s.

I will say though that things that are in style here, may be out of style where you are, and vice/versa so I wont criticize because it could go on for days. Different country/different style.

Now with Brock, Im sure he knew he had to weather an early storm, but doing so, youre going to use better footwork and at least strike back to keep someone like Shane from unloaded those bombs of his on you. If you watch there was a point when the fight was "almost" stopped. Now Im not going to say it should have been, but it was close. If that was Brocks plan, then he went the wrong way about it.

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it has spilled into this thread too? iy yi yi....

[KoalaBearV.4]

Kane - ever been punched in the face? How did you react?

In the 30's, 40's and 50's... the majority of the world probably still used proper spelling and grammar. I don't think the world as a whole is smarter than it was back then, if anything the colective of humans are dumber. So, dunce (a name given to the stupid kid at school just in case you didn't know) is a vastly more intelligent insult than douche (a pump used to clean out the vagina).

I mean, would you be offended if i call you a colostomy bag?

[Prophet For Profit]

Man. Being called a colostomy bag is Șhitty.